Its a delayed blowback system that will suppress well if the gun works as advertised. In store pick-ups will have a transfer fee. I wouldnt drop that amount of money on one. Probably. Pro's obvious quality, low recoil, super accurate, nice trigger, excellent fit and finish. Dumped the LWRCi. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa364/jgarcia2430/236C79EB-55C9-4B87-B867-C54EC77F836B_zpsaayxt15u.jpg, https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/-NIB-LWRC-SMG-45-4100-shipped/174-2130906/, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62232/photo_2021-06-04_18-19-37_jpg-1978187.JPG. Over to the pistol and we see an SB Tactical pistol stabilizing brace. Used it on a buy/walk tonight and it's the perfect size and weight for vehicle operations. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. ). For starters, the short recoil delayed blowback operating system provides the shooter a softer shooting weapon and fewer parts wear than cheaper PCC offerings. Like so many others have said, this weapon is stupid quiet with the suppressor. They fix the accuracy issues? This gun comes with 4 x 25 round magazines. Pics/specs/details? LWRC SMG 45 for sale. The right side of the LWRC SMG-45 features a bolt release and bolt catch that mirrors the AR-style one on the left side. 578-28 RH RIFLING: 1:16 RH | 6 Grooves Features: LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION LWRCI RAIL PANELS Semi-Automatic Rifles . Um nope. Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. You cannot paste images directly. Quick View. Thats kinda ridiculous. It uses a delayed blowback recoil system and has very light recoil compared to your typical 9mm AR. The mags are the issue to me. Yeah, but what kinda short-sighted clown specs a new SMG in .45 ACP at the first offering? Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. Im a LWRC. Full Size (kinda) Glock 19x Dagger. Mine (SN: 000118) continues to run great. Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRC's own attachment system). Unfortunately I hear the UMP is a big step down in quality from the MP5.. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. Within the next few weeks, more will show up at local dealers. Great fit and finish in tradition of LWRC. I feel for the guys that are struggling with accuracy issues, but I'm not one of them. Weight is 5.9 pounds. I empty 4 of them every time I go to the range. ago To be fair to the Vector, its a very good brand of new hotness. Not prone like in the video. They are very hard to find however & most you do find are MSRP $2999 or much more on Gunbroker, ect. You should have no problem finding one." HK Parts has the US made mags for $49. We don't have a bias towards one brand or another but after handling and shooting both guns the B&T was our preference. Try finding B&T APC 45 (blow back) mags for less than $90. You either have a bad disconnector, very loose trigger/hammer pins, a bad spring, or an incorrectly manufactured lower. To be fair, Id bet you had the exact same level of bullshit with MP5s and other HK shit two decades ago when the Rainbow Six games were all the rage. Well, that and the 5K is just plain cool as hell. First few times taking apart and putting back together were painful but OK now that I know the tricks. Store Price Shipping rate Show more; Out Of Stock. Hell, I just got the new gun itch I guess. My distributor has backorders for 1k+ units, and so far has received zero fro LWRC. Help Support the site and gain access to the Feed, see fewer ads, and get a new icon under your name showing you're a supporter! (Especially if you SBR them.). https://www.lwrci.com/assets/images/5563.jpg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxjWxpi5bg. Everything from MP5 clones, to Kriss Wunderwaffen, to the bog standard Scorpion. Add to cart Add to wishlist. The whole recoil system on the Vector is an interesting design and the one I shot was pretty nice, though it was a 9mm. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.2 lbs and . The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. After reading the responses here, its going to be a no for me. map. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. The accuracy and the butt stock being set down slightly are the only things he disliked from the whole package . Display as a link instead, LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ? I really like mine. LWRC. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. someone above even mention this . JavaScript is disabled. What a failure and waste of serious talent. A forum community dedicated to 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Not to go too far off topic but Perhaps HK UMP, since they set the Mk. Better Security for the Home. It would be a shame not to shoot it suppressed. Extremely smooth shooting 45 ACP. So I can understand that. Always. Like the Glock 19x, Sig MCX Rattler, FN 509, and many other firearms originally developed for contracts, the LWRC SMG-45 popularity draws increasing demand from civilian customers. - with improvements , suppressor & optics ready, lightweight & compact with the SB brace. I think that they look cool, but Im just not really seeing the utility in it. Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. A tubular folding stock graces the rear of the SBR version. I hope it will decrease the shot groups from spreading so bad. Cleaning was much easier than expected. No, its not a popular handgun cartridge, because when you have to hold a double stack 45 handgun it always feels like a behemoth. Haven't had a problem since although only a few mags through it so far, and no issues with two other mags I ordered from LWRC. Maybe they had a vote, maybe its something else but it is what it is. But I wanted a short .45. Fantastic trigger. Question any one have one of the new smg with the 4 in the serial number? New From LWRC: SMG-45 .45 ACP SBR and Pistol, NYT Reporter: LaPierre Unanimously Re-Elected, Its Official: LaPierre, All NRA Officers Unanimously Re-Elected Without Opposition, Meadows Elected President, Kiger Updates the 9c Compact With the New Kiger-9c Pro 9mm Pistol, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine, Whats In Your Wallet? Shit hasn't changed in 15 years. It's such a great little package on 45. Your email Im extremely excited to hopefully put some rounds through one eventually. I sure hope they get it figured out and soon. This baby eats everything and is now my full time travel companion (sorry mpx-k) totally worth the wait an the price. You can shoot a PCC much faster and more accurately than a pistol. There have been multiple people claim the same issue. I want, but my usually understanding wife will balk at that price. I really wanted these to work. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. It's needed since it's recoil operated just like a tilting barrel pistol and extra weight affects it the same way. I picked one up a few weeks ago. It shot a shotgun pattern group at close distances. Runs great with octane 45 [deleted] 20 days ago But hoo-eee it aint cheap at an MSRP of $2,995. Still cool as hell though. It has been operating flawlessly right out of the gate and seems to eat anything from regular target rounds to my duty carry +P rounds consistently without any issues. Not to mention how many people with SMG/PDW/pistols/whatever put cans on them? Garand Thumb is pretty neutral and at least he is transparent with any relationship he may have with whoever's product he is testing. Too busy at work. The CMMG Guard and Banshee also use a true delayed blowback. LWRCI ICR5TG16SPRBT IC-SPR 556 16.1 BILLET TUNG. Rapid Fire. https://simplisafe.com/garandthumb SimpliSafe is award-winning home security that keeps your homesafe around the clock. You are using an out of date browser. The most common delayed blowback is one implemented by H&K in MP-5 and G3. Played with it a bit and realized the follower was "catching" and "chattering" instead of moving up smoothly. Garand Thumb did a review and he hated it. Cookie Notice Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. LWRCICR5TG16SPRBT. But I also saw a pic of one with a cracked bolt carrier (or whatever they call it). The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. as much as I like the idea of a PCC in .45 ACP, Im not seeing a reason this would be 3x as much fun as a Scorpion EVO 3 at the range. I have a CZ Scorpion 9mm and this one shoots much smoother and less fatigue. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. JavaScript is disabled. Quick View. LWRC says they've resolved the issues and from my testing yesterday, it appears they are correct. Recoil is minimal and similar to well tuned AR, but way less blast. I once again was driving holes in a 1inch group from a standing position at 25 yards. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. Just placed a deposit down on one as they looked awesome. But when you can have those 25 rounds hanging off the gun just forward the trigger then youve drastically changed a factor in caliber choice. I'm waiting for one and hope that they eventually produce an upper in 10 mm and 9mm and even 40 SWif this works as good as I believe its potential, I believe that this PCC will have a bright future! I could get 10+ M3 SMGs for the cost of one of these. Mine has been flawless and is fun to shoot. Just talked to LWRC my gun is up for testing this week sometime after being worked on for the feeding issues and I asked if they could also test for accuracy they told me they would test for accuracy and if it didnt pass would I like them to hold onto it for me because as of now there is not a solution apparently engineering is having issues With getting parts shipped or so Im told just thought I would share that info for anyone who has their firearm there with similar issues. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.2 lbs and compact folding to a mere 15.3" Listening closely to shooters, operators and consumers, the SMG .45 Pistol design features compact ergonomics with unique performance features including: an 8.5" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel, LWRCI user-configurable rail systemwith strategically placed Picatinny segments, LWRCI Rail Panels at 3,6 and 9 with hand stop,LWRCI Fully ambidextrous lower controls, LWRCIUltra Combat Grip, New and Improved Advanced Fire Control Group, Magpul MBUS Pro Sights and more . Well the accuracy came through without the suppressor. They can be had for less than a kit built Romanian AK-47, whi. Like other Submachine guns and PDWs, its concealability and suppressor abilities make it perfect for your new truck gun or home defense weapon. After repair, the accuracy is still good. Grouped like shit, mine is damn consistent in its groupings. The long-awaited LWRC SMG-45 arrived this month in a Gun Shop near you. Thats high-end rifle money. I think you guys are right about many people owning them and not realizing there is accuracy issues maybe not seeing it of just blaming there own shooting or Ammo on bad groups and flyers . What am I doing wrong? SHTF Preparedness. As far as the value, if it was in 9X19 Id agree with you, but its not. Fucker shifts all over the place. Without adding too much length on to any host firearm, this SiCo suppressor is one of the most maneuverable on our 45 ACP suppressor list. Powered by Invision Community. They've apparently fixed my gun. Love the .45 round, the size and weight of the rig. This is the 2nd one of these that I've owned. It includes panels to aid in gripping a hot firearm following continuous strings of fire and a handstop to prevent the user from shooting their hands similar to other backpack guns like the new Daniel Defense DDM4 Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). See if there's a "V1" stamp etched into the back near the bottom. SMG-45LWRCISIX8ICAR-15AR-15 UMP SMG-45 2016LWRCIUMPSMG-45 SMG-458.51:16.57828.40/45SMG-45LWRCI Not a bad way to grow the community. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking This is called a recoil operation, Jeremy. Ive read all the reviews and videos. I own lots of firearms Im way past necessity so looks are very important as bad as that sounds I still want it to work imagine that . I keep coming back to look at that picture. April 29, 2019 at 23:33 Answer (1 of 15): The AR market is so flush right now that that the cheapest AR style rifle is actually an AR-15. You must log in or register to reply here. Groups in close are tight (2-inches at 25 yards on a bench rest) good, at least for me and my crappy eyesight. LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM, LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION, LWRCI REVERSABLE NON-RECIPROCATING FOLDING CHARGING HANDLE, LWRCI 8.5 COLD HAMMER FORGED CHROMOLY STEEL BARREL, HARDCOAT ANODIZED NITRIDE NICKEL BORON SURFACE COATINGS THROUGHOUT, SHOOTS SUPPRESSED USING A BOOSTER/NEILSON DEVICE. As awesome as these seem, I let mine go. With a relatively inexpensive 300 BLK upper, you get the same utility as the SMG at a fraction of the cost. Reply More posts from r/LWRC. Weight: 10.7 oz. We will contact you as soon as this product is available. You running it with a can? Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s. Id pick this over my UMP45, just because of the trigger. The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. In stock. Now they pass on the cost to the citizen. Having fired the Vector (in .45) and the MP5K both with the giggle switch installed, Im partial to the Vector.
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